An Independant Scotland Mar 7, 2013 10:30:37 GMT
Post by spudeeelad on Mar 7, 2013 10:30:37 GMT
Great post, 100% agree. Daviejojo- it really isn't the case that people are voting for an independent Scotland because of a historic ideal. This goes back to this stereotype that Scots who want independence have just been watching Braveheart too much.
Your arguments about Scotland not being able to support itself and possibly trying to re-join the UK is not reality. We're part of a country that, effectively, has brain washed Scots into thinking we're inferior to England. There was a recent vote at the University of Glasgow on the independence debate and BBC asked one student why he was voting for Scotland to remain part of the UK and he answered that Scotland was too small a country to be successful and support itself. How sad is that? Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, The Netherlands are just a few countries that are of similar size population to Scotland and they have less debt and have better living standards than the UK. And we have Scots born in this country who think we couldn't be a successful country? It's really, really, really sad we have people with that mindset.
Fair enough if you want to remain part of the UK for other reasons but I just can't accept anyone's argument that Scotland couldn't be a successful independent country. It's ludicrous.
I do not know where this nonsense comes from about it comes out of Scotland's budget. That is entirely incorrect given that when your prescriptions became free, mine saw nearly a £2 increase.
But either way, let's look at the bigger picture here. There are so many different places looking for independence these days, for example at present we have the Basque region, Catalunia, that small town in Italy that wants either independence or a switch to Austrian nationality, Scotland and probably some others I cannot remember.
What do these small, insignificant countries think they are going to do alone? Is the world going to listen to a country that represents, for example, 0.0001% of the world's population? No. They barely listen to the UK now with 60 million people, why would Scotland be listened to with only 8 million?
In terms of % of population, Scotland has the highest rate of elderly people claiming state pension and with free Universities these days, the actual working population who are paying taxes is extremely small given the amount of people who are taking out of the pot, but not paying into it.
The oil WILL eventually run out, so what then? Something will HAVE to give.
In other words, your call for independence may bring short term benefits, but in the long term you would be screwed.
As to any re-union, I feel that if Scotland were to leave, they would never be accepted back into the Union. Same goes for Britain and the EU, I feel if Britain left the EU, they wouldn't be allowed back in.
EDIT:- One more thing. You say about oil revenues... do you know thee single reason Norway is not part of the EU? Any resources of an EU member belong to all of the EU, not a single nation. Norway opted not to join the EU because it would have to give an even bigger proportion of it's earnings to the EU than Scotland does to the UK.
In other words, rather than giving it to London, you'd just be giving it to Brussels and as such sharing it with 20+ other countries, not 1.